Comments on: Trainee retention rates: Freshfields and Slaughters post 86% and 84% results https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Fri, 19 Jul 2024 09:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6 By: Trainee https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1196067 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 09:11:28 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1196067 In reply to curious george.

Corporate was the only group where people didn’t get offers

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By: Insider https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195971 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:01:56 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195971 SM conveniently leaving out that most of the leavers did not apply or did get an offer but turned it down

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By: NQ deader than a graveyard https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195891 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:18:44 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195891 In reply to curious george.

Not slaughters but generally all practice areas were oversubscribed.

Corporate is always oversubscribed across city firms but this time especially given the reduced number of positions.

Finance seems to be buoyant but from what I’ve heard they also have tightened their hiring budgets as it has been oversubscribed for not as many roles going this time.

The real killer this cycle is the niche practice areas which includes your employment, intellectual property, tax, data protection, insurance, pensions, technology and sourcing etc.

There are little to no roles going at NQ level in those areas and if there are roles there are over 100 applicants.

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By: Loooooool https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195874 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:20:11 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195874 In reply to Lol.

This is BS

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By: SM-er https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195870 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:10:15 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195870 In reply to SMM or SMH.

From what I can gather, its more about “fit” not so much that the trainee did anything egregious (i.e trainee not as social etc etc).

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By: Jewellers https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195854 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:08:52 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195854 In reply to Prestige pays my bills.

The Gold-Plated Circle

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By: Lieutenant Evident https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195852 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:58:57 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195852 In reply to Bob.

Thanks Captain Obvious!

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By: curious george https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195849 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:50:15 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195849 In reply to S&M Unretained.

Which groups at SM were oversubscribed/undersubscribed?

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By: 3 is a magic number https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195844 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 07:59:57 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195844 In reply to ‘The Expert’.

1. My E-toro account performs better than the FTSE 100 companies. FTSE 100 clients are mainly old-world companies in the banking (the worst investments), tobacco, oil and mining sectors or dinosaurs like BT, Royal Mail etc. that no one cares about.

2. Your pitch of Slaughter’s culture is that of indentured servitude, reeeaaalll attractive.

3. 15 years for partnership? You’re more likely to be “up or out” after 10 years.

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By: SMM or SMH https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195838 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 06:52:28 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195838 So those on FTC tends to be due to performance issues?

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By: 'The Expert' https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195831 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 03:10:03 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195831 In reply to Lol.

You all need to understand that Slaughter and May’s multi-specialist approach and unique market strengths – including advising more FTSE 100 companies than any other firm and its long history as a market leader – means it needs to make tough choices in regards to retention.

Slaughter’s only takes and keeps the best of the best – those who are willing to truly serve clients in an excellent manner. Any trainees who have complained about the lack of a raise or else have not embraced the firm’s multi-specialist mindset, commitment to quality of service, and unique approach to billing clearly do not fit into Slaughter’s culture and are not viable long-term candidates for firm partnership. After all, if they cannot make sacrifices for the firm now, what will they be like 15 years down the line when they’re considered for partnership?

Ergo, many of them have been kept on fixed-term contracts – and it will be clear soon whether they sink or swim.

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By: Bob https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195812 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 18:34:05 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195812 It’s a client business. We want people as juniors that work hard, are personable, and have the right attitude. It’s a given that any trainee at a top firm will have the intellect to do good quality work.

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By: Prestige pays my bills https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195810 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 17:32:25 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195810 In reply to Alan.

I think you mean the Prestige Circle…

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By: The partner schmoozer https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195803 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:52:56 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195803 In reply to Shocked but not surprised (and need more info).

At a super-hierarchical firm like Slaughters, I imagine internal politics and your “polish” as a trainee plays a big part…

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By: 4 year term https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195800 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:34:49 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195800 In reply to Saul.

Usually around 6 months. The claim is that the period will iron out any “performance issues” / uncertainty they have about trainees before bringing them on full-time as associates. Unless the market picks up though, I can see a lot of these FTCs lapsing…

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By: Shocked but not surprised (and need more info) https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195797 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:28:13 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195797 In reply to Lol.

BEGGARS BELIEF !!!

I would be keen to scope how much internal politics has influenced FTC/perm gigs and/or being given a role on qualification or not.

I am not sure some who qualify are really talented or even a safe pair of hands, at some firms it truly seems to be whether you are palatable or not

wondering what is happening at the US firms …

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By: Saul https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195793 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:47:51 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195793 In reply to Lol.

How long are the FTCs? Are they there to genuinely give them a chance / see if the market picks up or is the message that they won’t be kept on after the end so they should look for jobs (but still boost the retention rate)?

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By: realist https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195791 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:14:09 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195791 In reply to Fred.

Because the MC was never defined in terms of salary or international presence…?

That’s enough salary comparison now freshers. Vac scheme applications will be back soon and it’s nearly your turn to apply.

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By: S&M Unretained https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195790 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:59:52 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195790 In reply to Lol.

Yep.

Also that those with offers are not all qualifying into the teams they wanted albeit this seems to be happening at all firms this NQ cycle.

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By: Lol https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195789 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:56:57 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195789 In reply to Shocked but not surprised (and need more info).

At least 7 of the retained are on FTCs, rumours are that it’s actually 10. It’s beyond me that someone has confirmed that all are on permanent deals – it’s demonstrably false.

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By: Alan https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/07/trainee-retention-rates-fresfields-and-slaughters-post-86-and-84-results/#comment-1195787 Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:50:36 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=207121#comment-1195787 In reply to Let’s be honest.

Slaughter and May is Platinum Circle. It is the only firm in the Platinum Circle.

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