No, ICSL was run by the Inns of Court. It was then sold off to City University and went down hill.

ICCA is the new Inns of Court bar course.

So ICCA is the successor to ICSL in that they are by the Inns of Court.

But then most lawyers who get to practice engage in constant misrepresentation of the fact, making up untruths, coming up with crazy scenarios that only an idiot would believe.

The simple fact is only serial liars make it in law and the concept of justice and fairness are thrown out the door the day one joins a set or walks into a solicitors office.

As for my ‘learned this and that’ etc, the educated general public rate lawyers at the bottom of occupations in terms of respectability and on a par with used car dealers and estate agents.

Time for the law to get its house into order and end this rip off of the young innocent and naive? It should start by curtailing the university law departments churning out far too many law graduates.

Ah but then it’s ever been thus. Just read Dickens, Trollope.

I’d advise anyone thinking of becoming a lawyer to spend a month in a prison and a month in a magistrates court, a day in each of a county court, a crown court and a ‘family’ court (if it were permitted as the injustices there are infamous and the complete antithesis of justice), and maybe a minute at the RCJ.

That should iron out any silly ideas about justice and make them realise it’s all about fees and money

No you throbber. City is the successor to ICSL. ICSL became City.

ICCA was created from scratch. Nobody who taught at City/ICSL designed the ICCA course or taught at City

Yes. Bar council to start a chambers. Excellent idea.

I cannot understand why pupillage, practical legal training, cannot be undertaken by training providers rather than only having chambers, CPS and Government Legal Department as the exclusive providers. There is nothing to stop the Bar Council/BSB establishing university legal firms or chambers that offer both academic and practical legal training. People need to think outside the box so that access to justice is improved. Pupillage is not just about individuals seek the opportunity to become barristers, but it is about making legal services accessible and affordable.

Yes. The industry offering courses to misguided, starry-eyed Bar hopefuls is a scandal. Up to £19k for training for a job for which just a very few have realistic prospects. 1,600+ enrolled students and thousands of previous BPTC grads all chasing ~400 pupillages each year, which become ~300 tenancies.

And many of those will be joining the crim chambers’ churn of crap work for baby juniors to keep chambers in with the sols, to benefit the seniors.

What a racket.

Maybe it’s a great idea to buy shares in the conglomerates that own these ‘schools’?