Comments on: Ex-Mishcon solicitor apprentice demonstrated ‘utter disregard’ for employment tribunal https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/ Legal news, insider insight and careers advice Mon, 15 Apr 2024 10:22:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6 By: Anon1 https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188816 Mon, 15 Apr 2024 10:22:30 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188816 In reply to Alan.

couldn’t agree more!!

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By: Archibald O'Pomposity https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188773 Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:30:26 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188773 I see a lot of indignant responses to “Alan” in the comments to this piece. I suggest not feeding the troll.

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By: Archibald O'Pomposity https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188772 Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:29:12 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188772 In reply to Charlemagne.

Possible but unlikely.

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By: Charlemagne https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188715 Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:41:22 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188715 In reply to Alan.

How do you know their age? Does it say in the judgment? For all we know this person is a career changer.

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By: Employment Junior https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188702 Fri, 12 Apr 2024 10:01:16 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188702 In reply to Soar to new heights.

Can confirm – this is excoriating stuff and definitely beyond the norm.

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By: Anonymous https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188699 Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:10:35 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188699 In reply to Alan.

You know someone has lost the plot when they start using phrases like “woke brigade”

Please go outside and touch some grass.

PS – if you read the responses, they weren’t defending the SA in question but the validity of SAs as a route to qualification.

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By: Alan https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188698 Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:49:29 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188698 In reply to Immature and needing guidance.

Exactly the reason why apprentices should be outlawed. An 18 year old who has never had to stand on their own two feet should not be let loose on the legal profession. The woke mob try and say otherwise, citing fictional examples and crying foul, but this point has yet to be adequately addressed.

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By: Alan https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188693 Fri, 12 Apr 2024 07:50:04 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188693 In reply to Alan.

If it wasn’t so sad, and disturbing, it would be funny to watch the woke brigade come out in defence of someone who couldn’t even be bothered to defend herself.

I doubt that it’s true about someone turning down a high ranking university for an apprenticeship – these things are easy to say online with zero proof. In the unlikely event it is true, I strongly question who has been advising that young person, and would hope that a proper investigation be undertaken to root out the culprit who should face criminal sanction for setting back the career prospects of a vulnerable person.

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By: Soar to new heights https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188660 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:02:14 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188660 The Judge here, Judge Klimov reportedly said:

‘ “The claimant showed a complete and utter disregard to the Tribunal’s process..’

Those who have done work in the ET know that tribunals are known to flex compliance with rules or deadlines somewhat (within reason) and far more so where it is a litigant in person, which from the sounds of things, this person was.

It must therefore have been a whole new level of p*ss taking for a Judge to make that particular observation.

Raising the bar, this one.

Imagine, if that was their behaviour at a tribunal, what would their normal attitude have been on the apprenticeship, whilst at the firm and whilst studying? @Mishcon – how they did get taken on in the first place?!

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By: Alna https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188654 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:37:44 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188654 Don’t you?

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By: Anna https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188642 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:02:52 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188642 In reply to Best excuse ever.

No, you don’t.

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By: Anna https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188641 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:02:06 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188641 In reply to Immature and needing guidance.

Basically, FA and FO

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By: Employment Junior https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188634 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:48:39 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188634 In reply to Immature and needing guidance.

So, so foolish. Now she’s likely to be hit with a costs award worth a year or two of university debt, for nothing.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188633 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:40:06 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188633 In reply to Alan.

Alan, I see you on every post about SAs and never said anything but you are completely ill-informed on the subject yet have the tenacity to comment uneducated opinions, at least have the moral fibre and hard work ethic to research the matter you are speaking about.

Apprentices do a degree while working 4 days a week on trainee-level tasks. Apprentices have the same level of training provided to trainee solicitors and as a trainee solicitor myself I am impressed, by the ones at my firm, hard work ethic and courage to enter the work world at 18. Furthermore, the recruitment process is extremely competitive and they undergo a long and thorough application process. One of the apprentices at my firm had offers from top UK universities (Durham Law!) and said the application process for the apprenticeship was far harder.

My law degree from a top RG university did not prepare me for my training contract and this is a common complaint from almost every graduate across every firm, it is the firm training that actually trains you for the job.

Hope this is helpful and I hope next time you don’t comment on matters you are wholly unqualified to comment on. End of story.

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By: Best excuse ever https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188631 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:17:21 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188631 “Despite this, the aspiring solicitor failed to attend the virtual hearing, emailing the tribunal at 9:35 am, just 25 minutes before the session was due to begin. She stated that she was unable to join ‘because she was at the airport about to board a flight for a family trip abroad to celebrate her birthday’.”

Hahahahaha you have to respect the boldness, really

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By: Immature and needing guidance https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188630 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:15:18 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188630 The SA in question sounds like a school leaver who hasn’t given much thought to career choice and who has failed to appreciate the seriousness of making claims against another party and the legal significance.

Sounds like school pupil excuses for not having done homework and leaving everyone else to be responsible for the mess created.

SA needs to mature and learn from this experience. And to look at whether this is the right choice of career – this event will likely have dented their chances of qualifying now anyway!

Actions have consequences. You can’t start claims and not engage. If you ignore what you’re supposed to do, it will come back to bite you. You can’t have your head in the sand. This isn’t school anyway. That’s the lesson the SA needs sadly.

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By: Anon https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188628 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:04:06 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188628 In reply to Alan.

Massive overgeneralisation that all people aspiring to be solicitor apprentices would behave in that way, or indeed that people who happen to have a degree wouldn’t! You can easily get a degree in this country without “moral fibre” and with varying degrees of hard work.

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By: Alan https://www.legalcheek.com/2024/04/ex-mishcon-solicitor-apprentice-demonstrated-utter-disregard-for-employment-tribunal/#comment-1188625 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:53:32 +0000 https://www.legalcheek.com/?p=203661#comment-1188625 This article should be circulated to each and every firm who is considering hiring apprentices as a warning of what the profession is getting itself into by employing these unqualified individuals. She did not even bother to turn up for her own hearings, imagine what would happen if it was for a client, with whom she was not as personally engaged.

Having the moral fibre and hard work ethic to get a degree should be the bare minimum to be a lawyer, end of story.

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